Talk:Empire State Building
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Empire State Building article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 3 months |
This level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Empire State Building has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. | ||||||||||
| ||||||||||
Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on May 1, 2006, May 1, 2010, May 1, 2019, May 1, 2023, and May 1, 2024. |
There is a request, submitted by Catfurball, for an audio version of this article to be created. For further information, see WikiProject Spoken Wikipedia. The rationale behind the request is: "Important". |
Design time
[edit]I've already changed the statement that "the drawings were done in two weeks" to something more realistic. Nobody, least of all in 1928, designs and engineers a house in two weeks, much less a 103-story building. I think an initial concept came out in two weeks, and from what I see from an unciteable-but-probably-correct blog, the seventeenth variation was taken for development in October 1928. Shreve, Lab & Harmon were contracted on September 9. There is no doubt that it was fast-tracked, but we need to stay away from confident assertions that design was completed on two weeks - that would result in unbuildable drawings, or just plain disaster. Construction didn't start until March 1930, and the site wasn't even fully assembled until November 1929. Design took about a year. I'm looking for definite sources that don't repeat what WP says. Acroterion (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Acroterion, I've removed the 2-week claim entirely. This reminds me of the claim that Fallingwater was designed in 2 hours - it really isn't feasible for the final plans to be drawn up in 2 weeks. The initial drawings may have been sketched in that time, but if the entirety of the site hadn't yet been acquired (as you mentioned), there is no way that it took only 2 weeks to create the final drawings. At some point when I have time, I'm going to check the source again to see what it says. – Epicgenius (talk) 20:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I've looked around for sources that might realistically state the design time, but have found nothing. And thanks for your work on Fallingwater. Acroterion (talk) 21:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Impire state building
[edit]It was planned to be built as a airship docking station in the late 1920s like to read more about it 2600:1009:B00E:9A8B:D80A:DFAB:767C:C681 (talk) 11:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Grammar mistake
[edit]"am" instead of "an" at the end of the 'above the 102nd floor' section.
"(…)and am inflatable dragon was placed(…)"
109.40.51.159 (talk) 06:08, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Tenants list
[edit]I've been mulling this for a while, but I think the list of notable tenants may violate WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Some of these entries are sourced only to these tenants' websites themselves, and in any case, a listing of tenants with articles is one step below a literal directory. It may be helpful to trim most of these entries, only keeping tenants with particularly large leases in the building (e.g. tenants that occupy a full floor or more). Most other good articles on NYC buildings either list their tenants in the prose, or they don't list tenants at all, except perhaps maybe the largest tenants.
Does anyone object to my trimming the tenants section? – Epicgenius (talk) 20:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- GA-Class level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Arts
- GA-Class vital articles in Arts
- GA-Class National Register of Historic Places articles
- High-importance National Register of Historic Places articles
- GA-Class National Register of Historic Places articles of High-importance
- GA-Class Architecture articles
- Top-importance Architecture articles
- GA-Class aviation articles
- GA-Class airport articles
- WikiProject Airports articles
- WikiProject Aviation articles
- GA-Class New York City articles
- Top-importance New York City articles
- WikiProject New York City articles
- GA-Class Skyscraper articles
- Top-importance Skyscraper articles
- WikiProject Skyscrapers articles and lists
- Wikipedia good articles
- Art and architecture good articles
- Spoken Wikipedia requests