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"AT"

It is interesting and somewhat frustrating to find that readers of this page are presumably assumed to already know what "AT" stands for. Why not just come right out and say what it means? BrianAlex (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, maybe because this comment is embedded in the source wikitext for the page? wbm1058 (talk) 13:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The source, citation 7 "https://ecse.rpi.edu/courses/S15/ECSE-4780/Labs/IDE/IDE_SPEC.PDF" is no longer hosted, and doesn't exist on the internet archive. Meanwhile, IEEE and Intel, along with the United States National Institute of Standards and Technology and 3M all state that it is Serial Advanced Technology Attachment.

My sources are:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9295094

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/serial-ata/serial-ata-developer.html

https://csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/serial_advanced_technology_attachment

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00036228/ SRSchiavone (talk) 05:26, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Editors: PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE "AT Attachment" to "Advanced Technology Attachment" !!! The relevant standards simply say "AT Attachment". It is NEVER written out as "Advanced Technology Attachment", except in error. That's not the official name, as documented in the spec, linked below. Any "online dictionaries" or other sources that say otherwise are simply wrong; the spec is a "horse's mouth" reference and no other interpretation is possible. (The same is true of Parallel ATA.)
REPEAT: "AT Attachment" IS CORRECT and absolutely should not be expanded to "Advanced Technology Attachment".

You just need to read below the fold: Serial ATA § History:

Before SATA's introduction in 2000, PATA was simply known as ATA. The "AT Attachment" (ATA) name originated after the 1984 release of the IBM Personal Computer AT, more commonly known as the IBM AT. The IBM AT's controller interface became a de facto industry interface for the inclusion of hard disks. "AT" was IBM's abbreviation for "Advanced Technology"; thus, many companies and organizations indicate SATA is an abbreviation of "Serial Advanced Technology Attachment". However, the ATA specifications simply use the name "AT Attachment", to avoid possible trademark issues with IBM.

Somehow this should be summarized in the lead to lessen confusion. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 10 November 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved per quick and clear consensus. PhotographyEdits (talk) 09:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Serial ATA → SATA – SATA is the WP:COMMONNAME of this subject. It already redirects here. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:03, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:45, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Everyone calls it SATA. JIP | Talk 00:17, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
support per nom—blindlynx 02:53, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

External links

There were elevem entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.

ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
WP:ELMIN: Minimize the number of links.
WP:ELCITE: access dates are not appropriate in the external links section. Do not use {{cite web}} or other citation templates in the External links section. Citation templates are permitted in the Further reading section.
WP:ELBURDEN: Disputed links should be excluded by default unless and until there is a consensus to include them. -- Otr500 (talk) 20:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

99%

The article indicates that 99% of commodity PCs run SATA. As the article notes, most SATA disks support SAS signalling. Also, many PC HBAs support SAS signalling. So, many of those 99% might actually be running SAS. This is easy to see with Linux, which gives them device names like /dev/sda. I believe Windows also does it, though maybe not so obvious. I don't know of a WP:RS for the percentage, though. Gah4 (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely, that 99% is a thing of the past. Modern consumer storage is M.2, with perhaps 50% still using SATA but the other 50% being NVMe. --Zac67 (talk) 18:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. It says commodity PCs, which might not include laptops. I suppose M.2 isn't rare in desktops, but not as common as laptops. But yes, even for desktops, one of those is more than 1%. Gah4 (talk) 01:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMO commodity PCs does include laptops but the statement it is clearly attributed to 2008 which was likely true then but possibly not so now. I doubt if SAS has any greater penetration in said market given a continuing OEM price difference (not retail price) and even with M.2 there is a question since doesn't M.2 support SATA? There probably also should be something added about SATA penetrating enterprise market in nearline storage but now possibly loosing share. The problem is finding RS's for market share by interface. I'm looking :-) Tom94022 (talk) 18:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]