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Requested move 1 August 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to List of -gate scandals and controversies. Consensus developed around LaundryPizza03's suggested alternative title, List of -gate scandals and controversies. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 20:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]


List of "-gate" scandals and controversiesList of scandals and controversies ending in -gate – This seems to make the most sense, and is somewhat consistent with List of words ending in ology (which I also propose to be moved to List of words ending in -ology). The suffix in the title should be formatted in italics too, so that it shows as List of scandals and controversies ending in -gate and List of words ending in -ology respectively. QueenofBithynia (talk) 10:09, 1 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. signed, 511KeV (talk) 10:35, 8 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:43, 15 August 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 20:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose, the present name is clearer (and per BarrelProof). Randy Kryn (talk) 12:08, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to List of -gate scandals and controversies with DISPLAYTITLE List of -gate scandals and controversies per MOS:WAW, under which words referred to as words are to be italicized, not quotation-marked. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 16:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove quotation marks – I'm not sure what the correct title is, but whatever it is, it should have -gate in italics per MOS:WORDSASWORDS.
@QueenofBithynia: Just to aid the closer, if there isn't consensus for your proposal, am I correct in assuming that you would prefer LaundryPizza03's proposed alternative over the status quo? Graham (talk) 02:50, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would indeed, although I would prefer a move to my proposal or List of scandals and controversies with names suffixed by -gate, as suggested by BarrelProof. - QueenofBithynia (talk) 13:08, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Minkgate

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Are these three sources[1][2][3] (which include The New York Times and Forbes), sufficient to show that the unlawful slaughter of all mink in Denmark, an event which led to snap elections,[4] has been called "Minkgate"? At least one editor does not seem to think so. Here are some additional sources.[5][6]

References

—⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:02, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It may well be referred to as Minkgate in WP:RS. However, that is not the article's title, nor is the word used anywhere in the article. Until that changes, it probably shouldn't be on this list. Lard Almighty (talk) 17:16, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is easily changed, of course, and the -gate name has been suggested in the ongoing RM about that subject. However, Wikipedia should not be used as a source for itself; independent reliable sources should be used. And this is not a navbox or a disambiguation page. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:18, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
No, it is a list of articles that have -gate in their titles or, at the very least, refer to the incident as something-gate in the body. Neither is the case with this article. If that changes as a result of the ongoing discussions, it could then be added. Lard Almighty (talk) 17:23, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is a question worth asking: What is the WP:purpose of the list? Is this a list of articles or a list of notable topics along with some information about those topics? A WP:disambiguation page or a WP:navbox is merely an aid to navigation, so for example we have a guideline called WP:DABMENTION, which basically says that if a term is not mentioned in some article, that article should not ordinarily be listed in the disambiguation page for that term. Disambiguation pages and navboxes do not cite sources – they only link to articles. However, the purpose of this list article is very different. Its purpose is to provide information, not merely navigation. Unlike a disambiguation page, this list cites its own off-Wikipedia sources (nearly 500 of them). This is a WP:Stand-alone list. Its content stands alone, "subject to Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines for articles, including verifiability and citing sources", per WP:LISTVERIFY. Of course, I could just add a mention of the term "Minkgate" to the most relevant article – after all, in its ongoing article title discussion the term "Minkgate" has already been suggested as a possible title for the article. But that should not be necessary as a matter of Wikipedia guidelines, since this is a stand-alone list article. By the way, here https://cphpost.dk/?p=129957 is a seventh such independent reliable source that verifies the -gate term usage, in The Copenhagen Post – "the only English-language newspaper printed regularly in Denmark" (quoting the Wikipedia article on that subject). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:58, 7 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oceangate?

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I know it's the actual name of the company, but I think it might be qualified to be added to this list. Pewtercupcakes (talk) 22:43, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. It's not a -gate scandal. Lard Almighty (talk) 04:41, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Lard Almighty, @Pewtercupcakes; someone (wasn’t me) did eventually add OceanGate. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 02:47, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Framgate?

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Why isn’t any famous Wikipedia controversies (most notably “Framgate”), mentioned on here? Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 02:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]